Pyromusical Equipment

pippar

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What do you think is the best Pyromusical Equipment in this moment? I have just post but the Thread there isn't now.
 

xavier

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Fire-one, pyrodigital and pyrodigit are the must known.
But they are very expensive because you need the master and the sequencers. You can't use the sequencers without the master. You have to do a big investement before you can shoot one pyromusic.
You can use the sequencers of pyroleda also. The advance of the sequencers of pyroleda is that you can programe the sequencers manualy or with the computer. You can use the sequencer without the master. You buy first several sequencers and you can start. Later you can buy the master if necesary.
For a pyromusical is best you use a software (scriptmaker)
 

xavier

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I work with Pyroleda and I'm very happy with this because it is a 2 wire system.
Fire one and pyrodigit and pyrodigital is with multicables. They are changing there system also to a 2 wire system.

I saw the system of Parente ( firemaster ) from Italy. Very impressive but expensive to. For the starters I recomand pyroleda because of the low cost.
 

xavier

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Mi English is not so good. I gonna try to explain it.
2 wire system is a system who works with normal 2 wire cable like the bickford cable ( the normal fireworks cable ). With multi cable I mean a big cable with several wires connected with a scarf or other system.
 

ProFormancePyro

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I would have to agree, I have used many system on our displays, from Pyro Digital to Fireone, and after extensive use the PyroLeda comes out on top for ease of use, functionality and durability. I would also say the best scripting package would be ShowSim, not only does is script across multiple systems it also simulates your display prior to shooting the real deal. check out our web-site for the download www.proformancepyro.com
 

propyro2

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I have done quite a bit of research and if you look at things in terms of USD prices you would have to say that Fire lite is the best value for money for a small to medium size pyro company wanting to do pyromusicals.

For features and confidence Pyro digital would be first choice but it appears too expensive and does not seem to be supported by upgrades and product development.

There is a bit of suspicion about re fire one as being fire none and I have heard of various big shows where they have had big failures and have blamed fire one. Also people have said that it does not have the network speed of other systems and does not fire fronts and chases as accurately as pyro digital.

What do you think opf these comments?
 

propyro2

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800 odd views of this thread but only 12 posts. If you view this thread and have an opinion but dont post, you are not giving back to the spirit of freak
 

Vavoom

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800 odd views of this thread but only 12 posts. If you view this thread and have an opinion but dont post, you are not giving back to the spirit of freak

I think you're forgetting that over 95% of the members of this forum don't have any (personal) experience with this kind of equipment. Hence, they have nothing of value to add to the discussion. They can read the discussion, though, just out of interest (or by accident).
 

xavier

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Before bying any system, we did some research too. For fir-one, pyrodigital, pyrodigi, smartfire, pyromate, galaxy you need the controller too manipulate the sequencers. During the show there must be a communication from the controller to the sequencers. For the first investment you need some sequencers(slaves) and a controller. Those system are not compatible with other system. The slaves from pyroleda are stand-alone modules. To start you don't need a controller. That the mean reason we choose for pyroleda.
We started with 3 slaves. We fired also pyromusicals with only 3 slaves( 75 ques) in combination with our other system (genetec).
At the momment we have 6 sequencers. Every year we buy more sequencers.
If we have enough sequencers we gonna buy the controller as well.
 

propyro2

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If u do not have a controller how can you stop a sequencer due to malfunction if it is placed close to products.
Can you estimate market share of the most popular systems in Europe.
 

pippar

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I want to reply to Xavier. Not only pyroleda is compatible with other system, also pyrodigit is compatible, not all items but is compatible. For example there is a module, called AFC that controls small units with 15 channels, used together a small module that make possible work with other systems.

I try to answer to propyro2 about the first question: you can't stop the sequence. In this operative mode it is impossible.
 

propyro2

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I should not be so lazy and should check the user manual for the sequencers but for arguement sake if you cannot safely remotely stop a sequencer, which would be difficult if an explosion had occurred near the sequencer, then a sequencer has no broad application if it is used without a controller in a programmed mode. Maybe a laptop can be connected to the sequencer during the show to act as a controller. Any how I will have to do some homework.

This makes me think that Fire One is on the right track with the Fire Lite, a low cue count, low cost, fully featured controller. They realise that most pyros do not need one fully blown expensive controller but instead more than one controller to do multiple shows on the one night and then team together for bigger shows.Why didnt Monetti think of this. They know the usefulness of pyroclock in reducing cue numbers therefore should understand that controllers do not need to fire thousands of cues and smaller less expensive controllers would be better.
 

pirofedetama

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i want make a question to pippar , if you are a pirotechnics you think tha t a firing sistem is a necessity or an accessory ?????????, all make sequence in fireworks show , at the moment make a sequencer is probably obsolete , new design move in a different way , only fireworks couldn't make a big event , or you make a pyromusical show or you use another arts like lightnin service , group ballet , laser light , flame light machine and if possible water light fountain .............the firing sistem is the ultimate choice, like an ACCESSORY ....... very expensive , the fireworks art isn't the technology but the quality of the coreographs and the quality of the fireworks ........



marketing should be clear !!!! if you want i could borrow you some articles or book about this ..........a big hello , and if i don't see you in the next mouth , have a grat christmas you and your family.

at the end if i 'll buyng a firing sistem ........the best choice is ........pyrodigit.
 
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